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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8029

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Whether you plan to use sidescan data for isobaths building? As far as I know only sonar data now used.
IMHO using sidescan data could allow it is considerable to improve the accuracy of isobaths and width of coverage for one pass.
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8030

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koch wrote:
Whether you plan to use sidescan data for isobaths building? As far as I know only sonar data now used.
IMHO using sidescan data could allow it is considerable to improve the accuracy of isobaths and width of coverage for one pass.

Sidescan sonar is not the same as multi-beam, and there is no "extra" depth information available here. If there was, we would be using it already!
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8031

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Thank you.
Are the SL3 log format will be supported?
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8032

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Matt wrote:
Sidescan sonar is not the same as multi-beam, and there is no "extra" depth information available here. If there was, we would be using it already!
Strange thing.
Using Lowrance Sonar Viewer I can see bottom depth in any point on all width of sidescan image... It would be wonderfull if you could use this information for isobath's creation.
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8033

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koch wrote:
Matt wrote:
Sidescan sonar is not the same as multi-beam, and there is no "extra" depth information available here. If there was, we would be using it already!
Strange thing.
Using Lowrance Sonar Viewer I can see bottom depth in any point on all width of sidescan image... It would be wonderfull if you could use this information for isobath's creation.

Is this with SL3 files and a StructureScan transducer? If not, does the depth vary at all with distance from the centre of the swath? There is no extra depth information present in standard sidescan sonar logs - only the depth beneath the boat.
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8037

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I have understood, you're right, thank you.
That you think about data from the 3D-transducer (Lowrance/Simrad)? Whether it can be useful to isobath's creation?
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8051

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Waiting with baited breath. Main feature I need is the quick and easy depth adjustment from full pool to actual depth. This will be awesome.
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8061

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I truly appreciate the time and effort that goes into something like this, thank you Matt
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8063

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Has the bug been fixed for conserving proper colors in export of vector KML contours?

Ability to adjust final pool height prior to export?

Ability to export contour maps to MBTILEs format?

Ever thought about providing a window of time (say 2 years) following purchase where you get upgrades, whether they are minor or major. I personally feel screwed over, since I just purchased Reefmaster in June '16, and I only got 6 months of update (singular = only one minor update in that time), while others have had years and years of free updates. How is this fair? You're also immediately alienating your newest customers.
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8064

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Adjust final pool height prior to export is a feature, can't comment on the other.

I purchased Reefmaster 1.0 quite a while ago, so maybe I don't have the same perspective....but IMO, the software is a great value, even with the upgrade cost for 1.0 to 2.0. Remember, us sonar/mapping nerds amount to a very niche (small) market. I hope that Matt and his team are charging enough to make ends meet....because the last thing I would want is for progress to be halted on future improvements!
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8065

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Hi ndoggac,

I am glad you have raised this issue, as it gives me a chance to explain the reasoning behind our upgrade policy, and why we chose the one we did.

Why can't upgrades be free, forever?
This is the "ideal" of course, but very few (if any) software companies can afford to do this any more, especially in a field as niche as the one that ReefMaster operates in. The reality is that we can't afford to keep developing new features without at some point charging for them. I understand that some customers might feel that they are getting "milked", especially those that have purchased relatively close to a major version release, but without an occasional paid upgrade there simply wouldn't be any future major upgrades. One thing I do know from user feedback is that we have many users who would much rather pay for upgrades than have development on ReefMaster cease altogether.

The question, then, is which is the best model to use when releasing paid upgrades?

Timed upgrade periods
Your suggestion of timed upgrades (e.g. upgrades for free, for a year) sounds good in principle, and I know a lot of companies use this approach. We certainly thought about it, but it also has issues:
  • It is technically harder to implent - we would need to keep track of subsciption periods for each user and limit access to upgrades accordingly.
  • What happens if you release an important bug fix after the user's subscription has lapsed? In my view, the user has a right to the fix, but under this upgrade model perhaps not to new features. It would be almost impossible to manage an upgrade program that could achieve that split.
  • It would still give rise to some dissatisfaction amongst users, e.g. if a major release is scheduled for a year and a day after purchase.

Subscription
I won't even go there, although of course this model is now rampant. In the subscription model you pay a fixed amount per year and can only use the product for the duration of the subscription. I strongly believe that once you have bought a product, you should be able to use it for as long as you like.

Major version upgrades
This is the model that we chose, in which minor upgrades and bug fixes are free during a major version release cycle, and major version upgrades (which will always be a significant upgrade to the product) are charged. On balance, this seemed the best option for us. It is probably as fair as any other model, and we have always been clear that this is our upgrade policy. This policy also allows us to make some more radical changes between major versions - for example, in v2 we will have new minimum system specifications that might mean that some users will not be able to (or even want to) upgrade.

In answer to your other questions; we do have another maintenance release planned for v1 that will include the KML colour bug. The other points are not bugs so much as features, and both will be included in version 2.

Finally, I would like to make the general point that when you buy a piece of software you have to do so on the basis that the software in its current form provides the value that you need, and not on the basis of future upgrades that might or might not be delivered. Bear in mind as well that that when you buy later in the release cycle, you are getting all of that cycle's upgrades included - other users' may have bought earlier, but they didn't have those features for all of the time.

It is also worth noting that - for this particular upgrade, at least - there will be no net financial disadvantage to buying beforehand as we are changing the price of ReefMaster at the same time. And, of course, there is no obligation to upgrade; you can continue to use RMv1 for as long as you like.

Matt
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Some Information about ReefMaster 2.0 9 years 5 months ago #8066

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I bought my RM 1 on 21 September (do i win ;) ?), and i´m not complaining. Will buy the RM 2 upgrade when available, because i think the extra features is worth it.


Anders
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