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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 2 months ago #7802

  • hermes
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Will depend on how much you want to spend and if you want side scan (structure scan)... If it's just basic depths you could go for something like the lowrance elite units. Side scan will be more expensive - one of the hds type units. I started with an elite 7, loved it, but then wished I had Side scan so bought an hds.

I don't have experience with the garmin or other units, but I have been happy with lowrance. Have a look on eBay, there are sometimes some good 2nd hand units. Lowrance.com will be the best place to look at specs / prices.

Just my opinion, I'm sure others will prefer different units, but I loved the elite unit and now think the hds 2 is ace :-)
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 2 months ago #7804

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It also depends a little on what you plan to do with your finished maps. If you want to display them on your unit, then you should go with Lowrance (or Simrad), as they provide a free tool (the Insight Map Creator) that ReefMaster makes use of to produce great looking, full colour maps that you can use on your device.
Sidescan is also very useful, and the newer Elite Ti units from Lowrance are a really nice new range that can include sidescan (with optional TotalScan transducer) for a very reasonable price. One thing to be aware of is that units with small screens log sonar just as well as the bigger units, so there is no need to spend money here unless you really need a big screen on the water. Humminbird also do some nice smaller SS units. To make full use of the sonar viewer and sidescan mosaic features within ReefMaster, you are currently limited to Lowrance, Simrad or Humminbird units.
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 1 month ago #7894

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I am another new user and have been considering the Elite-5 Ti but I get a little lost when it comes to transducers and the need for external GPS. Any suggestions for mapping the hard bottom and any discernible sediment? The intention is to use the bathy data exported to CAD software for integration with topographic surveys. Thanks for any help!
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 1 month ago #7905

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The Elite 5-Ti is a self-contained unit with everything you need to create maps in RM - no need for an external GPS. I have an Elite 7-Ti mounted on my kayak and it is a great unit for the money - in fact I would say that the new Elite Ti range are amongst the best value units around now.
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 1 month ago #7913

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Hey Matt, if I recall correctly, the Elite Ti series don't include a digital compass, right? Is there any compasses that I could use with the Elite TI and RM?
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 1 month ago #7943

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There are no units out there with a buildt-in compass. Look to Point-1 to get compass-heading to Elite 7 Ti or any unit with NMEA2000.. (Elite 5 Ti does not have NMEA2000 and therefore does not support Point-1.)
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 10 years 1 month ago #7944

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Another option is to find a digital compass that outputs NMEA 0183. Don't know about the Elite 5 but the Elite 7ti will accept NMEA 0183 "HDG" sentences, as will Reef Master, so they should work together.
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 9 years 7 months ago #8921

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Another new user here. I am interested in the Elite 5 ti for creating a bathymetric map of shallow lakes (max 15m depth). I'm hoping for a unit that can collect depth and coordinate automatically while we drive the boat, say every 1-5 seconds for example.

I wish to create my maps using ArcGIS, and my understanding is that Reefmaster will allow me to extract the needed data into files I can import elsewhere.

Does the Elite 5-Ti allow for automatic logging of location and depth? Is this function and data exporting hard to set up? I don't necessarily require a unit with large screen like the more expensive models have, but will these models provide more accurate data? (we only need the data collection functions)
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 9 years 7 months ago #8922

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As much as I'd love you to buy ReefMaster, it is probably overkill for the task you propose. You can record depth and position data automatically on an Elite 5 Ti at a high rate, and store this data to a memory card. You can then use the free Insight Map Creator application from Navico to extract depth and position data from your recorded sonar logs to a CSV file, which you can use as a data source for ArcGIS.
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 9 years 7 months ago #8923

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Awesome response, thanks so much. Frankly, I'd be happy buying Reefmaster just for all the support available! (Especially since this is a student grant and not my own money).

It looks like the Elite 5 ti is well suited for my needs. I will look into the Navico software, though Reefmaster does have some interesting tools that might be useful for my project, specifically the Sonar Viewer. My project is investigating sediment distribution in a small reservoir, so looking through the sonar images may help determine whats raw sediment and whats not.
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 9 years 7 months ago #8924

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Another follow up question:

Do the other Lowrance models (like Hook 4) process/collect/etc data as well as the Elite 5 ti? I assume that the newer the model, the better the technology, but considering I don't actually need the map functions (only data collection), it seems other units would work tool. It looks like the Elite TI series and the Hook series can both log sonar data; is anyone familiar with the differences between units with respect to sonar and GPS accuracy/etc?
Last Edit: 9 years 7 months ago by lubby1010. Reason: more stuff
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New user- what sonar unit is best? 9 years 7 months ago #8930

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Hi Liz

Welcome to RM forum. Matt was being pretty modest in promoting ReefMaster as a tool for you. I'd like to comment on RM as a user. I have been mapping coastlines for 15 years here in New Zealand and used many software tools in that time. RM is now my main tool as the go between the sounder and ArcGIS work. One thing Reefmaster does for you is it will very quickly convert line depth data into extrapolated 100% coverage, allowing you to generate contour lines of your choice. It integrates this process with a shoreline, which you can bring in to RM via a shapefile from your GIS. It gets better, once you get this far you can export from RM a GIS compatible 'grid' file. Once you have this in your GIS the world is your oyster because you can go straight to 3D work, make hillshade, contour layers etc. One other function in RM which is very useful is you can do your tide level adjustment easily, so that if you need to all the mapping layers and data you produce are tide adjusted. Assuming here you are working in salty water. So Liz you won't regret purchasing RM it is a great tool for integration with ArcGIS.

Liz you mentioned mapping obstructions etc. From what you have said it seems you are heading towards making side scan layers as well, which is now possible on most of the Lowrance and Humminbird machines. RM's capability to work with SS data is also excellent. There is some good expertise on working with SS checking in frequently with this forum, so suggest you start a thread at some point about your project and ask the questions as they arise.

Have fun.............................................................
Cheers
Vince Kerr
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