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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 2 years 8 months ago #9196

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This works with the Elite Ti line and likely the HDS Gen3 which both have Wifi. This should be done preferably with an Android device but Apple and Windows devices should work fine also with an FTP program. I'm using ES File Explorer and I highly recommend using it because it has a built in FTP app that really simplifies the process of uploading map folders and deleting old ones and is considered by most to be the best Android app for this kind of use

I've always had problems with multiple maps on one SD card especially if they are from the same lake. I like to make and use several variations of essentially the same map because each has their special purpose and also for testing different maps on the water. So until now that meant multiple SD Cards which is frankly quite stupid having to do on a device running Embedded Linux on a dual core ARM Cortex A9 CPU but that's another story and here is the workaround

Move your maps in their own named folder over to a folder on your Android device. Insert an SD Card into the finder with one map on it (or none) and then go to your Android device and pair the WiFi with the finder. Open ES File Explorer. Scroll down if needed on the left and select Network and then select FTP from the list that drops down. You should see a folder with the IP addy of the finder, click on that and in the next window click on "Memory Card" and you are on the root of the SD Card. Now click "Local" on the left, choose the second "Home" on the list and that will open up a new tab in your home directory. Go to the place you put your maps and select and then hit the "Copy" button at the bottom. Now swipe the screen to the right and that takes you back to the FTP tab and the root of the SD card in the finder and then hit the "Paste" button at the bottom.. This will take a minute or so depending on map size because of the slow write speed on the finder. Now delete any maps folder you had on there previously. (Note that when you delete the file on the SD card the map is still showing, it loads the entire map into RAM and storage) Unplug the SD card, wait a couple of seconds and then reinsert and your new map should pop up. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed. You can also transfer some other files by clicking the "userdata" and then "logs" folder or upload and download wallpapers and screen shots in their respective folders. However your USR data, ie.Waypoints, Routes and Trails, are in "protected memory" and have to be accessed by the browser interface documented on my blog (Link below)

If you are using an FTP program on Windows the download port is 21 and the upload port is 20 but if you use ES File Explorer on Android you don't have to bother since those are standard ports for FTP and it's ready to go out of the box The Elite Ti and likely the HDS Gen3 (Or any other Navico device with WiFI) has both a simple web server that displays this webpage (No not my blog page, the page on the finder in the pictures ;^) ) and has a simple FTP server.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 2 years 8 months ago #9197

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BTW don't worry about hurting your device, this is really no different than using the built in file browser and the risk (or lack thereof) is exactly the same as using the built in file browser. Anything risky is in Protected Memory and you can't get to it except for the limited access to the USR file.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 2 years 8 months ago #9198

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This is really interesting, but the problem with multiple maps on one SD-Card, also from the same waters, you also simple can solve with the "Atlas Description" in RM or directly in the IMC: only with vector charts or only with raster charts (with a small trick) or as mix from vector & raster charts.

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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10644

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So do you just add a folder to the root of the card named Hordaland 3 then place your files inside there. Then another folder named Hordaland 2 with its files? I mainly have SS Mosiac maps on my cards. I just keep copy and Pasting all my AT5 files under one shaded relief for these areas. The bad part it is trying to read all these files at one time. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Jason
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10645

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Vector charts you can simple give a different chart name and rename the different AT5 file sets.

But there is a problem, if you want to use more than one raster Chart.

We have 3 years ago create a small tutorial and you i think can good read it with the Google Translator:

www.tacklefever.de/index.php?topic=5356.0

The chart naming funktion also later came to RM, and now you can use it.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10649

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Thanks you for the help in doing this. I have version 2.0 and i undestand how to name the diffrent files on there. Problem is i recorded a bunch of my logs using LSS1 Box with an LSS2 tranducer. Version 2.0 cannot read these logs very well at all. I used that setup cause it gives me the best images hands down. So i use version 1.8 to make my mosiacs and 2.0 if i am making contour maps. I will see if i can the the google translater to work for me, i just wish my version 2.0 would read my logs correctly and also give me an option of what log takes president over another instead of leaving it all up to reefmaster. I have maps that i can show why this is needed. Thanks again for you help and maybe i can gets some anwers on my my version 2.0 does perform as it should.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10650

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In my opinon RM 2.0 makes good rasters from sidecsan mosaiks for Lowrance/Simrad units. If you have problems, ask Matt in this case (support mail) or show pics with the problems.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10651

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Browndirt38 wrote:
i just wish my version 2.0 would read my logs correctly and also give me an option of what log takes president over another instead of leaving it all up to reefmaster. I have maps that i can show why this is needed. Thanks again for you help and maybe i can gets some anwers on my my version 2.0 does perform as it should.

v2.0 has a number of different modes for Sidescan Mosaic when running with hardware graphics acceleration. The default is "closest signal" which will always try to show the signal closest to the transducer where possible, and often gives a good mosaic with very little or no editing required. If you want to replicate v1.8 behaviour you can use the "Layered" mode, which will show entire sidescan swathes/segments on top of each other and allow you to choose the ordering by dragging segments within the layers list in the edit panel.

Edit to add: If you want to try and translate the manual using Google Translate, then you can do this by entering the URL for the online manual into the GT website. The online manual URL is reefmaster.com.au/reference2/index.htm
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10652

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Matt,

thanks for getting back to me so quick. I am aware of those settings but that drop down box will not change or give me the other choices. It just stays on closed to transducer. I am having some other issues with Ver 2.0 as well. When i am on sonar viewer if i see something of interest on right side and mark with waypoint it shows up on left side and vice versa. The sides have not been flipped and the log is correct. Also now when i go to make a super kml overlay it will leave part of it off. And i can send you some examples how ver 1.8 is showing my logs better than on ver 2.0. On 2.0 they got out so far then blur out.

Thanks for all your help

Jason
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10653

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Hi Jason,
Yes - please send some examples to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and we can take a look.
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10654

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Will do i will send them here shortly?
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Transferring and Changing Maps with Single SD Card 1 year 3 months ago #10658

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Hi,
Yes, please send examples and links to log files used in the examples to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. If log files are large, the best way to share them is to zip them first and use a file-sharing service such as WeTransfer.
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